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Thought I'd start this topic. Not really sure it's needed as most people are good with spoilers, but it's here if you want it...

 

I haven't seen it yet - going this afternoon - but I'll be back tonight to discuss things in more detail.

 

Go at it!

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I was amazed at the amount of gigantic actors that they got in for tiny bit parts. Natalie Portman who didn't want anything more to do with Marvel. Robert Redford arguing over a suitcase. Michelle Pfeiffer and Angela Bassett literally just standing there.

 

Also, 70's Stan Lee was perfection.

 

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Portman was re-used footage from Dark World. But yes, Redford, Grillo and the other Hydra guys showing up was a nice surprise. 

 

"Hail Hydra" :D

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11 minutes ago, Thor said:

Portman was re-used footage from Dark World. But yes, Redford, Grillo and the other Hydra guys showing up was a nice surprise. 

 

"Hail Hydra" :D

 

Portman still got a credit. At least everybody else had to actually do some work.

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I was really hoping that they’d show 

 

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Earth and other places showing more signs of becoming paradises five years later. They hinted at it with the whales thing, and a few other parts but I’d have liked them having to more obviously choose between paradise and their friends.

 

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I was really hoping that they’d show 

 

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Earth and other places showing more signs of becoming paradises five years later. They hinted at it with the whales thing, and a few other parts but I’d have liked them having to more obviously choose between paradise and their friends.

 

 

That was all bullshit anyway. Thanos told Gamora that her planet was much better off and yet Guardians of the Galaxy says that she's the only person left from her race. 

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Hulk disappointed me in every film except Assemble and Ragnarok to be honest, they just totally misused the character, the scene with his arm in a sling, come on this is fucking Hulk, The same Hulk who can literally destroy a planet, he has no ceiling to his strength and rage, using the Gauntlet should have just made him angry because of the pain, he should have literally smashed Thanos around like he did Loki due to the anger, in Planet Hulk he kills off an infestation of flesh eating locusts by letting them feed on his arm, as the pain got worse he got angrier and he healed quicker and quicker, eventually they consumed so much radiation from his flesh they died, ate themselves to death.

 

Hulk should have smashed Thanos.

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I know how its meant to be perfect that the MCU started with Iron Man and ends with Iron Man passing away. However, maybe because I'm more comic based but it would have been more fitting for Cap to end it all. Instead we have Iron Man doing it and it seems all sorts of wrong for me, it was only because he's the biggest star of the MCU that this happened.   Instead we have Captain America, the man out of time, part of a team that is their last line of defence against alien / supernatural threats decides he doesn’t want to do this job anymore and takes it upon himself to use a cosmic artefact to go back in time and marry his ex girlfriend he left behind in the 40’s. More importantly messing up the time line too.

 

Captain Marvel was hardly in it, I assume she play a more prominent role but she didn't. When she did she then buggered off and came back later.

 

 

 

 

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After Hulk’s snap I realised all the superheroes who’d been dusted would join the fight. I was hoping that they’d all just gradually arrive in batches and the intensity would ramp up and up, was a tiny bit disappointed that they all came at once although as a result it was rather epic.

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Wait where was Portman? So much going on must of missed it

 

Cap getting the hammer was wonderful, as was the lift scene playing out as it did. I'm so impressed they've pulled this off though the pacing was a little off at times.

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Only issue i had with this was Captain Marvel. I really don't like her, her character is bland and empty. She has no weight at all and if she wasn't in it, it would have made no difference. They could have easily done something different other than have her find Tony. I know shes only had one movie where her character was completely empty and devoid of empathy.

 

On the other hand you have Nebula, who had a great final arc in this. Killing off her former self quite literally and semblance of emotion. Really like what they did with her.

 

I was a bit torn on Cap turning over the shield to Falcon (Captain African America - Marvel saw that Black Panther money). Would have preferred it went to bucky.

It was a good scene nonetheless. 

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I really wish Hulk had been given a chance to prove himself against Thanos again. I guess us Hulk fans will always have Ragnarok.

 

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When he learned about Black Window I thought: this is it, this is where the green guy is going to hulk out and really go nuts for real. But it never happened. The gauntlet thing was cool for him though I guess, until he got upstaged. Also, apparently they didn't need Captain Marvel after all when Scarlet Witch can just straight up wipe the floor with Thanos.

 

The bits with Thor and the Guardians in both Infinity War and this are so good though I think I'm actually looking forward to AsGuardian's 3 even more. That cast has been consistently enjoyable to watch.

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6 minutes ago, Benny said:

I really wish Hulk had been given a chance to prove himself against Thanos again. I guess us Hulk fans will always have Ragnarok. When he learned about Black Window I thought: this is it, this is where the green guy is going to hulk out and really go nuts for real. But it never happened. The gauntlet thing was cool for him though I guess, until he got upstaged. Also, apparently they didn't need Captain Marvel after all when Scarlet Witch can just straight up wipe the floor with Thanos.

 

The bits with Thor and the Guardians in both Infinity War and this are so good though I think I'm actually looking forward to AsGuardian's 3 even more. That cast has been consistently enjoyable to watch.

 

I agree re the Hulk.  I thought that was a deliberate plot thread left hanging from Infinity War.  He had been beaten there and was afraid to face Thanos again.  I thought that would have a resolution here. In fact, out of everything I am not sure the Hulk arcs in Ragnarok, Infinity War and Endgame blend together at all well. 

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Hulk was a bit weird. He’s never been quite as well used as he was in Avengers 1 imo. 

 

Overall i I really liked it. There are things to pick at, but pulling together that many threads into a decent conclusion must have been incredibly difficult and they did a pretty good job. 

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