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Mine has arrived! It's really nice!

 

I played a few levels of Dynamite Headdy, Sonic 2 and Streets of Rage 2. Haven't noticed anything untoward and the sound in particular is perfect. One of my pads has a more clicky sounding B button than the other.

 

Also booted up Darius and the soundtrack on that is pretty great too!

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Had a SNES, played Megadrive at my friend’s house - fond memories of lots of games.

 

Got my Megadrive Mini through from Amazon yesterday and had a play last night - v. happy with it.
 

Love the controller, even though I should expect to prefer the SNES’.

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Despite being a Prime member and buying the vast majority of my things off of Amazon I went with someone called 365 games. I don't normally care too much about saving a couple of quid but for some reason went with the cheaper option for this. Hopefully get it today/tomorrow.

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Mine has arrived! Sad to report that the 8bitdo wireless receiver does not work, hopefully they’ll do a firmware update later for this. 
 

Had a quick squirt on Shinobi 3 and it’s lovely, pad cables are of course too short meaning one has to sit too close to the TV. Very annoying that Nintendo decided to go with their own proprietary connector rather than USB, otherwise the extenders I got for the SNES/NES minis would do just the trick. Ah well. 

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Can anyone who has the UK model please confirm the following:

 

* Are all 3 regions of each game accessible by changing language? I'm told that putting the UK model into Korean via the language menu will give access to the American versions. Is this true?

 

* Is the Japanese Castlevania, along with American Bloodlines and British New Generation all accessible? Same for JP Contra, US Contra, and UK Probotector?

 

* Does the European "Mega Drive" version of Spinball have music which plays too fast due to them boosting the game to 60Hz even though the original PAL 50Hz game had been optmised?

 

* Can you access the US Genesis version of Spinball on the UK Mini hardware? I'm not interested in Japanese Spinball, just specifically the Genesis version.

 

* The above two questions again, but with Comix Zone. I've heard reports the music is borked.

 

* When accessing games through the Korean/Chinese language menu, which allegedly gives access to English American Genesis games, do any of the American Genesis ROMs show the Japanese box art instead of the US box art? I've heard that the ROMs which load are the US Genesis ROMs, even though the box art is not from the Genesis versions. Or, does it actually load Japanese ROMs?

 

* From what you can tell, are there any US Genesis games/ROMs which cannot be accessed via any language menu on the UK model of Mini?

 

Games to check for include:

- Spinball (sound issues - but I specifically want the US version)

- Comix Zone (sound issues)

- LandStalker (EU version had a subtitle)

- Streets of Rage II (instead of 2)

- Beyond Oasis/Story of Thor (name change, languages)

- Contra/Probotector

- Vampire Killer/Bloodlines/The New Generation

- Light Crusader

- Space Harrier II (apparently you can access the Genesis ROM, but the system itself does not in any way contain the Genesis box art?)

- Shinobi, for the same reason as Space Harrier II

 

I've asked both Strider on here and M2 themselves, and got definitive answers, but then I check videos online, and Twitter, and no one is sure, and I get conflicting answers (notably a lot of confusion regarding Spinball). Both of Strider and M2 explicitly told me that Bloodlines is accessible via the Korean menu, but photos online show only the Vampire Killer box art in the Korean menu, not the Bloodlines box art, which implies that either you can't access the American Bloodlines, only Vampire Killer, or you can in fact access Bloodlines, but it will incorrectly show the Vampire Killer box art instead.

 

I need definitive confirmation on both ROM type and box art.

 

Honest to god the PAL release has been a shit show. It's been out for weeks in Australia, there are a hundred moronic YouTube plebs all grinning like Cheshire cats in their "unboxing" thumbnails, and yet not one of these turd weasels has actually made a video dissecting and examining specifically which ROMs from which region are contained in the EU/Australia model.

 

Please. Somebody be the super anal retentive pedant which I need, and get technical on this for me please.

 

I want to know which regions of ROMs can and cannot be accessed, and of those which can be accessed I want to know which box art is shown.

 

Also, why is there no precision regarding this information? It's been out for weeks, WEEKS! By now this information should be locked in on Wikipedia and be well established. I should not need to be asking for it. This is not weird or esoteric information. This isn't like I'm asking how to beat the secret dragon boss in Dragon Slayer IV on the original MSX. It's the fucking Mega Drive. You cannot get more mainstream. I spent hours trawling YouTube and as far as the eye could see, nothing but clowns and imbeciles smiling like they'd been given a morphine enema, rambling at the camera, devoid of information and utterly intellectually bankrupt.

 

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I'm not picking one up but I do enjoy new console launch hype - pics of minis next to random things for scale will be appreciated :wub: 

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18 minutes ago, Qazimod said:

I'm not picking one up but I do enjoy new console launch hype - pics of minis next to random things for scale will be appreciated.

 

:eyebrows:

 

 

 

Anyhoo; mine should be arriving tomorrow. Really looking forward to this as I absolutely luuurve them (hacked) minis (except the NeoGeo one).

Haven't played my other consoles in ages as I've been hooked on both my SNES and PS mini, catching up on classics that I either hadn't played before or haven't played in over a decade.

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Here's the ROM list: https://pastebin.com/fyhRNJfj

 

Doesn't look like that they've included separate UK/US versions for every game. I did a quick check on my UK model and changing it to Korean does show US Genesis art (with ERSB ratings) for a few games, but I'd assume that the rest are the Japanese versions.

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1 hour ago, Sketch said:

 

Honest to god the PAL release has been a shit show. It's been out for weeks in Australia, there are a hundred moronic YouTube plebs all grinning like Cheshire cats in their "unboxing" thumbnails, and yet not one of these turd weasels has actually made a video dissecting and examining specifically which ROMs from which region are contained in the EU/Australia model.

 

 

Agreed, even the more normally knowledgable ones have been very lacking in telling us exactly what is being provided on the PAL MD. At the very most one observed that the Virtua Fighter rom still had the Genesis subtitle on the start screen: so it's the Genesis rom, but what about every other game?

 

I've simply assumed that M2 have been lazy and are using US/JP roms for everything. M2 have a habit of ignoring PAL/50hz even in their SEGA AGES releases (would it be so hard to add a toggle/give us the PAL rom too?) so it's no surprise it's a similar thing here.

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24 minutes ago, Super Craig said:

Here's the ROM list: https://pastebin.com/fyhRNJfj

 

Doesn't look like that they've included separate UK/US versions for every game. I did a quick check on my UK model and changing it to Korean does show US Genesis art (with ERSB ratings) for a few games, but I'd assume that the rest are the Japanese versions.

 

Thank you very much. This is precisely what I have wanted all along, all these weeks. And you've handed it to me. Much appreciated Super Craig.

 

Interesting. It seems there are indeed 3 copies of Spinball. A good sign.

 

However, Probotector is not even named - it's filed under "eu_en_Contra_Hard_Corps.bin". Which means you can't really be sure what region each ROM is from.

 

You know? I think I'm just going to order a Genesis from VG+ and pay the import fees. I can't be arsed messing about with this trainwreck.

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I'm not quite sure what you are asking. Are you trying to make sure that there are 3 versions of each game included (where possible) as is the case with the Genesis Mini?

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1 minute ago, MW_Jimmy said:

I'm not quite sure what you are asking. Are you trying to make sure that there are 3 versions of each game included (where possible) as is the case with the Genesis Mini?

He would be eternally grateful if you boot up your machine and confirm the title for contra say probotector and shows robots instead of people.

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All three versions of both Contra and Castlevania are available (and yes, that means Probotector and robots for Europe). Streets Of Rage II/2 displays differently depending on if you choose the European or US version. I'd confirm more but I really need to get back to Essex...

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13 minutes ago, NEG said:

 

Agreed, even the more normally knowledgable ones have been very lacking in telling us exactly what is being provided on the PAL MD. At the very most one observed that the Virtua Fighter rom still had the Genesis subtitle on the start screen: so it's the Genesis rom, but what about every other game?

 

I've simply assumed that M2 have been lazy and are using US/JP roms for everything. M2 have a habit of ignoring PAL/50hz even in their SEGA AGES releases (would it be so hard to add a toggle/give us the PAL rom too?) so it's no surprise it's a similar thing here.

 

The in-game title screen for Castlevania has it called The New Generation, so I don't think it's as simple as that. Probotector is listed as that on the game selection screen, so I'd imagine it's not Contra on there (by default at least). 

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Lovely bit of kit, the 3 buttons pads are a very high quality and the model is spot on. It does annoy me however that Eternal Champions is the wrong box art, it should be this one

 

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Oh well !

 

Honestly well worth getting a retrobit pad! It's a 3M thick cord vs a thin 2M cord and the mode button on the front for instant menu access is much more user friendly than holding start. (Think of how handy that will be when you're save scumming Contra) That said I'm going to get the wireless version at the end of the month because I can never have enough six button Sega pads in my life.

 

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Lovely little thing!

 

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For scale (last couple of days of Sega goodness that arrived)

 

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2 hours ago, Sketch said:

Lots of questions

 

I can answer some of them for you:

 

Castlevania Bloodlines is in the box art menu and boots as Bloodlines if set to Korean:

 

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Streets of Rage is '2' in Korean and 'II' in English

Landstalker has the full subtitle in English on the mini menu and the game menu

Sonic Spinball music IS sped up on the English one.

Sonic Spinball is the Japanese box art when set to Korean but is the US version (i used this to test the music speed for you)

Probotector is listed as such and boots as such in English. Boots as Contra in Korean with no hits points vs 3 Hit Points if booted in Japanese

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6 minutes ago, HKT3030 said:

All three versions of both Contra and Castlevania are available (and yes, that means Probotector and robots for Europe). Streets Of Rage II/2 displays differently depending on if you choose the European or US version. I'd confirm more but I really need to get back to Essex...

 

Thank you Nik!

 

14 minutes ago, MW_Jimmy said:

I'm not quite sure what you are asking. Are you trying to make sure that there are 3 versions of each game included (where possible) as is the case with the Genesis Mini?

 

I wanted to be sure that for titles which are distinct between UK and US, that both the UK and US versions are included.

 

The mixed up box art in the Korean menu is partly what confused me when watching videos online / seeing photos.

 

Basically, as long as I can play only the US versions I will be happy.

 

Bit disappointed I can't get a nice uniform wall of Genesis box art, but oh well.

 

Also, I still think it's dumb I need to set everything to Korean just to access American games.

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5 minutes ago, Down by Law said:

Streets of Rage is '2' in Korean and 'II' in English

Landstakers has the full subtitle in English on the mini menu and the game menu

Sonic Spinball music IS sped up on the English one.

Sonic Spinball is the Japanese box art when set to Korean but is the US version (i used this to test the music speed for you)

 

Aha! So the Spinball music is sped up, but I can still access the US version. Thank you so much!

 

See? It's the little details like this that were bugging me.

 

And I bloody suspected it too! You need to access the Korean menu and click on Japanese boxart of Spinball to access the American version because the UK original has been artificially boosted to 60Hz, despite the original being optimised at 50Hz.

 

I am truly vindicated by these answers!

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Oh yeah regarding Comix Zone, it's just track 10 in the sound test that seems to be fucked up. The rest of them seem to be as I remember it.

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And lastly, here's the spines of the Korean language. Super Shinobi does boot as Super Shinobi and not Shinobi III, though you can always boot the english version for that.

 

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The hard to read one 7th from the right bottom row is Light Crusader. (Facebook is compressing the shit out of my image)

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19 minutes ago, Sketch said:

 

Aha! So the Spinball music is sped up, but I can still access the US version. Thank you so much!

 

See? It's the little details like this that were bugging me.

 

And I bloody suspected it too! You need to access the Korean menu and click on Japanese boxart of Spinball to access the American version because the UK original has been artificially boosted to 60Hz, despite the original being optimised at 50Hz.

 

I am truly vindicated by these answers!

 

Hang on a sec. I've made a fuckup. I assumed Sonic Spinball was the US rom because all the text, including the options and the pinball headers in game, is in english. I've googled the differences between the two and the Japanese version has a different death sound. I've only just gone and killed Sonic, and this is the Japanese version. So whoops on my part. 


The UK boxart version is definitely sped up in regards to sound, so it doesn't look like you can access the US rom on this machine as is.

 

I thought I'd better double check after Super Shinobi booted like that and not as Shinobi III.

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15 minutes ago, Down by Law said:

And lastly, here's the spines of the Korean language. Super Shinobi does boot as Super Shinobi and not Shinobi III, though you can always boot the english version for that.

 

 

Thanks for these pics - this is great. You should be making YouTube videos or something. This is precisely all I wanted to know several weeks back when the Aussies were getting theirs.

 

Hmm... The ROMs list only has 2 entries for Shinobi. I wonder if the English is PAL running at 60Hz, or the American version? More importantly, are there possibly any differences between them the regions for Shinobi III?

 

Several people suggested that Sega do what Nintendo did with the SNES Mini, and just junk the PAL games in favour of NTSC-U. I agree.

 

Interesting regarding Spinball. The ROM list has 3 versions:

eu_en_Sonic_Spinball.bin

eu_eu_Sonic_Spinball.bin

eu_jp_Sonic_Spinball.bin

 

I wonder how you access them all?

 

It might be, the only way to play the NTSC-U version, is to import a Genesis Mini. I ask though, is it worth the import charges?

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Ha no problem, enjoyable life being a Sega nerd. With my thick Dudley accent, I'd have to subtitle all my Youtube vids. 

 

Today I learned:

PAL Sonic Spinball music is pretty awesome when forced into a 60HZ mode. 

The Japanese version doesn't have the SKREE SKREE SKREE SKREE death sound.

 

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25 minutes ago, Down by Law said:

For scale (last couple of days of Sega goodness that arrived)

 

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The hell is there a Genesis seal of approval on that box?!  :(

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30 minutes ago, Down by Law said:

And lastly, here's the spines of the Korean language. Super Shinobi does boot as Super Shinobi and not Shinobi III, though you can always boot the english version for that.

 

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The hard to read one 7th from the right bottom row is Light Crusader. (Facebook is compressing the shit out of my image)

 

This is such a good photo. Very valuable. I wish photos like this were being shown weeks back. Looking at this, and seeing Story of Thor the Japanese version shown, I take it that there is literally zero way of accessing or booting the US version, Beyond Oasis?

 

The Americans get Beyond Oasis, plus Story of Thor in Japanese, plus all the Euro versions of Story of Thor, whereas in Europe we are denied Beyond Oasis?

 

I don't even like the game, I'm just kinda irritated that Sega is telling me I can't have something that the Americans can have.

 

Story of Thor / Beyond Oasis regional differences:

 

https://tcrf.net/Beyond_Oasis#Regional_Differences

 

Basically the PAL version has a crappier earlier localisation that was not properly edited.

 

Why aren't YouTube channels and websites covering this shit? We have received an inferior product.

 

EDIT:

Spinball:

https://tcrf.net/Sonic_Spinball_(Genesis)#Regional_Differences

 

TCRF doesn't have regional differences for Shinobi III sadly.

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6 minutes ago, Sketch said:

 

 

This is such a good photo. Very valuable. I wish photos like this were being shown weeks back. Looking at this, and seeing Story of Thor the Japanese version shown, I take it that there is literally zero way of accessing or booting the US version, Beyond Oasis?

 

The Americans get Beyond Oasis, plus Story of Thor in Japanese, plus all the Euro versions of Story of Thor, whereas in Europe we are denied Beyond Oasis?

 

I don't even like the game, I'm just kinda irritated that Sega is telling me I can't have something that the Americans can have.

 

Well, I found Genesis Beyond Oasis and Landstalker - they are in the Traditional Chinese language menu!

 

Can't find US Sonic Spinball in any of them though

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eu_jp_Sonic_Spinball.bin

 

 

I'd assume eu_eu would be a French or German version?

 

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1 minute ago, stefcha said:

You'll be able to put precisely what you want on it at some point, making the whole issue moot.

 

I saw the hacking group had 32X games running already :D

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2 minutes ago, Down by Law said:

 

Well, I found Genesis Beyond Oasis and Landstalker - they are in the Traditional Chinese language menu!

 

 

Fantastic! Also, how very counter intuitive!

 

But thank you. OK, this has settled it. I'll save the money and get the PAL release.

 

But again, I am unsettled by the number of YouTubers who had early access to this, and all of them utterly failed to do what Down by Law achieved in a single evening. Every one of those YouTube channels has failed, trounced utterly by a lone forum poster. The mind boggles.

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Youtubers won’t be covering this because 1) such a tiny tiny tiny percentage of people will care and 2) most youtubers are not very knowledgeable about what they’re talking about and only knock out videos for the views rather than spending time researching and verifying everything like some channels do.

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