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1 hour ago, jimmbob said:

Just watched it. It was beautifully shot, excellent casting, stupid everything, lots of explosions, loved it. 
And Ana De Armas needs to be in everything. 

All of this!  I'm still thinking about the movie really highly today.

Just such a classy production all round - some of the lenswork and lighting in the pre-opening credits section in particular, was especially gorgeous.  And yeah Ana De Armas 😍

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Saw it this afternoon - it’s a 3/5 for me, but I mean that in a positive way. I enjoyed it - the opening and the finale were very exciting, but it sagged interminably in the lengthy, meandering middle. 
 

Daniel Craig was and has been fantastic throughout, and NTTD was no exception. The intense physicality he gave to the role, as well as the dead-eyed charisma, are what I’ll remember the most. He stamped his brand on the character with great success and I look forward to seeing him in other movies soon. 

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17 hours ago, Gabe said:

Just back from seeing this and I really liked it and feel it was a really fitting end for the Craig run. There were lots of little nods to the whole franchise (music that has been used in previous films, for example) and I liked the way they introduced the way to carry the series on. 

 

I'll spoiler some thoughts once I've read what others have said, but yeah, really enjoyable.

 

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Where to start? Well, in reverse - bold move, killing him. I wonder if Craig had any input on that? I was instantly thinking of The Rock during the end bit, but I still found it quite touching.

 

The big bad was fairly anonymous, but you what, I didn't mind because there was enough going on to keep me engaged that I didn't really need an evil mastermind plastered all over the film.

 

I thought the 'It's just a number' was a good way to tell the audience that, yes, this really is this Bond's last outing but the role will continue.

 

Was sad to see Felix go, but I guess this film was about clearing house to a degree and it set the tone for Bond's fate too.

 

I liked Nomi's introduction, I thought that was a good way to introduce the prospect of real change in the franchise without any fuss, even if we don't see her again.

 

One thing that seemed to be pointed out by critics was that it was confusing - but I didn't think so and my partner, who has only seen Casino Royale, found it easy to follow too. I also thought that Craig looked so much more relaxed in this just from his mannerisms - helped too by a script that allowed a little more fun that in the previous two films (take his conversations with Felix, for example).

 

What does the future hold then? Somebody above mentioned a reboot of the series, but is that an official line? I don't see the need for that, given they have a nice little assembled supporting cast in place, with Q, Moneypenny and M, but I guess it depends on what direction they want to go now.

 

This is the first Bond whose end I've seen in 'real time' (I only ever saw 3 of Brosnan's films and never saw Dalton's in the cinema) so it feels a little bit poignant. Craig's reign, for me, is ultimately a disappointment. I thought CR and QoS were great, and he absolutely looked the part (I still think the sorting his cuffs on the breaking-apart train in QoS is wonderfully stylish and cool), but then you had the long gap between QoS and Skyfall and he just looked tired by then (I know he was always quite vocal about hating the PR stuff and physical training he had to do) - plus I hated that and Spectre for lots of reasons. Then he bounces back in his final appearance with such grace that, were it not for the extra miles on the body you'd think he'd be good for another few cracks at it. I wonder if, had Skyfall, Spectre and this had released across, say, 6 years instead of the 13 since QoS, he would be so keen to move on?


As I said though, it's ultimately been a disappointment. The 'connected universe' stuff that Mendes tried to bring together was a mess which NTTD wisely tries to steer away from, but those two films were just so poor in terms of plot, characterisation and fun it drags the others down with it.

 

The world has changed a lot since Craig first put on the tux and how relevant Bond is to the world today is, I'm sure, a question that will generate a lot of words. I wonder if it is time for me to move on from the character too and, if so, NTTD was a pretty nice way to end it.

 

The sorting the cuffs bit is Skyfall, not QOS

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1 hour ago, sandman said:

The sorting the cuffs bit is Skyfall, not QOS

Yeah, I remembered that after I posted when I was reading the plot summaries of Skyfall and Spectre (to see just how much of them I had forgotten - turns out it was a lot!) 

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We liked it.
 

Plot as full of holes as ever, villain motivations only half elaborated (pretty much as ever), fortunate that they didn’t try to release in April 2020.

 

Mildly surprising in parts.

 

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Obviously the fades to white.

 

Chekhov’s vial wasn’t surprising in the slightest; also needed more Ana.

 

can’t decide is Chekhov’s Cigar was just subject to a cut?

 

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Saw this last Thursday and I find myself still thinking about it.

 

There’s definitely some parts that drag and it could have used some tidying up.

 

But holy hell, the action, the opening titles, the way the whole thing is shot and directed. The incredibly subtle and classy shout outs to earlier Bond films. If Sam Mendes and Martin Campbell got a second swing for their films, Fukunanga deserves another one as well.

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Very enjoyable. I do like the way these last few Bonds have linked together. Some of the ideas didn't fully deliver

 

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The new 007 was a bit shit

 

It needed a better henchman

 

It needed a better baddie

 

but it was a lot of fun to watch with some old-fashioned heart.

 

I still can't decide if the bit with

 

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Blofeld trundling along in his mobility chair 

 

was supposed to be deliberately funny?

 

Me and the girlfriend were laughing like drains anyway.

 

4/5

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This was my first experience in a 4DX cinema… I won’t say I hated it but it was worse than a normal cinema mainly due to the above head lights being on. Also there were no water or scent features. Anyway, enough of that.

 

The movie was definitely good, although a bit 3.5/5. I don’t understand why Ana De Amas didn’t get more than 10 mins when she was the best thing in it. I thought Rami Malik was a bit shit to be honest, no charisma. That might be a bit down to me reading stories about him being an arsehole on set, though. He does always look a bit smug as well.

 

Also you could easily cut 30 mins out the middle of this movie, add a line from HQ for exposition, and it would be better. An action flick shouldn’t be knocking on 3 hours. Overall good, though.
 

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53 minutes ago, Timmo said:

This was my first experience in a 4DX cinema… I won’t say I hated it but it was worse than a normal cinema mainly due to the above head lights being on. Also there were no water or scent features. Anyway, enough of that.

 

 

Even in the fucking mist/fog scene? That's a wasted opportunity. 

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6 hours ago, Mawdlin said:

I still can't decide if the bit with

 

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Blofeld trundling along in his mobility chair 

 

was supposed to be deliberately funny?

 

Me and the girlfriend were laughing like drains anyway.

 

I thought it might be a reference to

 

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the monorail he had in You Only Live Twice.

 

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1 hour ago, McCoy said:

 

Even in the fucking mist/fog scene? That's a wasted opportunity. 

 

I almost forgot, during that scene the machines turned on for about 1 second and sent a comically small amount of smoke upwards. 

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41 minutes ago, footle said:


I’m sure pumping mist into the air is covid safe

 

As opposed to sitting in an enclosed inside space with hundreds of other people for three hours? 

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I watched Thunderball and Never Say Never Again a bunch of times as a kid and I would never have guessed the latter was a remake. Then again, you just remember specific scenes when you're a child rather than the actual plot. NSNA has the PVP nuclear war game where you get shocked when you lose. Thunderball doesn't, therefore they are different films.

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I quite enjoyed this but I thought there were too many characters and the villain was rubbish.

The most annoying bit was when the new 007 wanted to reassign the licence back to James Bond. Seriously? I don't think James Bond gives a fuck about admin.

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2 hours ago, The Boatman said:
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Imagine how happy Hideo Kojima must have been when he saw the latest James Bond film and found out it was all about nanomachines.

 

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On 04/10/2021 at 14:22, Timmo said:

This was my first experience in a 4DX cinema… I won’t say I hated it but it was worse than a normal cinema mainly due to the above head lights being on. Also there were no water or scent features. Anyway, enough of that.

 

the ceiling lights being on in cinemas annoys me more than anything, i don't remember them being on when i went to the cinema in the 90s and 00s. Any light distracts me from the screen, it probably sounds irrational but i like my screens to be hanging in black voids. I don't like big green fire exit signs either. just make a sign not visible from where you're sat. also i like lieing down when i watch films so the cinema is lacking in most ways to me.

 

On 04/10/2021 at 14:22, Timmo said:

I thought Rami Malik was a bit shit to be honest, no charisma. That might be a bit down to me reading stories about him being an arsehole on set, though. He does always look a bit smug as well.

 

For one of the worst performances of all time, one in which if you were to show anyone who didn't know Rami Malek was a quite highly regarded oscar winning actor they would not believe it, i recommend The Little Things. Also has Denzel Washington in it and is about a murder. Malek just appears as a detective who is supposed to be mysterious and fascinating ...i think but couldn't appear more unnatural.

 

i don't think this trailer quite covers how bad he is in it but it gives an impression 

 

 

i basically just carried on watching the film to see how he'd deliver lines, i couldn't be less immersed in the story or his character.

 

Another really bad performance i'll always remember is Emile Hirsch in Killer Joe. I know people will swear by Malek from Mr Robot but i think neither have range and it shows sometimes when they're miscast.

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Just got back from a screening and I loved it 🙂 Didn't feel like it went on that long... even though it did. Obviously there were clichés aplenty, but the director was obviously a massive fan of Bond in general and it really showed. 

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It's a bit sad that we had about 57 pages of chat about this film before it came out, but just 2 or 3 since release. 

 

I can't disagree with much you've said there @Parksey and I totally agree that Craig's era has been the most human portrayal of all of the Bonds. As I said in my initial post, from his mannerisms he just looked more relaxed and the comedic moments felt more natural than in his previous films; this film's version of Bond seemed less sociopathic and more relatable than perhaps at any time before.

 

It's definitely an end of an era, I wonder how his reign will be judged in future years, both in isolation and in comparison to the other actors? 

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