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I wouldn't be surprised if it was true. I go to the cinema at least 4 times a month, and most of the 3D screenings are on the smaller screens (the big screens being reserved for the latest blockbuster in 2D). So, when I see a non-tent pole type in 2D it's usually on a smaller one that was probably used for 3D beforehand.

 

Solo is a good example, as Deadpool 2 is chewing up all the large screens, and the image for that - when I saw it earlier - was flawless. 

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50 minutes ago, Venice Cull said:

I enjoyed it, but ~ just checking with anyone else,  was niggled by the low contrast of everything ~ at times people were almost just silhouettes when stood against a bright background. Was this just my Cinema projecting it wrong, or did anyone else experience this?

 

2D showings where 3D lens/aparatus is left on the projector.  90% of films are shown like that and it's shocking.

 

Also I saw this film and I thought it was great.

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The annoying thing is, you can't take any photos or videos to prove it. It'd be a scandal then sorted in a few weeks, if people could twittise it. 

 

#inthedark #blackoutcinema #whatever

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13 minutes ago, JPickford said:

 

Some?  All.

 

I was hoping they'd stopped after the bad press. I'm a complete sell out these days and I tend to go to 3D showings. I daresay it's probably better to watch a 3D film with a 3D lens than watch a 2D film with a 3D lens, amirite? My eyesight is all a bit soft focus beyond a certain distance anyway these days. I reckon it was all that fine tuning of looking closely at a CRT from a relatively short distance that did it. A controller cables distance from a computer/console which in itself was an AV cables distance from the TV.

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Those shots of the falcon though......absolute porn.

 

enjoyable film, loved the train bit, great cast.

 

loved the droid, worked well....esp chat in the falcon :)

 

didnt expect 

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Darth maul

 

And didn’t think that worked at all. They will no doubt create a sequel to exploit that now.

 

All in all, better than I expected, but I can’t wait until they start a new set of films.....knights of the old republic would be spot on

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4 minutes ago, Gregory Wolfe said:

 

I was hoping they'd stopped after the bad press. I'm a complete sell out these days and I tend to go to 3D showings. I daresay it's probably better to watch a 3D film with a 3D lens than watch a 2D film with a 3D lens, amirite? My eyesight is all a bit soft focus beyond a certain distance anyway these days. I reckon it was all that fine tuning of looking closely at a CRT from a relatively short distance that did it. A controller cables distance from a computer/console which in itself was an AV cables distance from the TV.

 

I've got to the stage where I go and see a film in 2D and think "Well I'll see it properly when I download it from Pirate Bay in a few weeks".   By properly I mean in colour.  I'll never forget my daughter asking me why the smart apes eyes weren't green in the second of the recent Planet Of The Apes films.

 

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I thought it was just me. Solo looked so dark and washed out in all the darker scenes (and half this film takes place in murky locales). I thought maybe I’d been spoiled by my HDR TV. 

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I'll be pissed if it was because of this lense issue, but it makes sense. Everything was so washed out and colourless that I refuse to believe it was a cinematographic choice.

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3 minutes ago, Venice Cull said:

I'll be pissed if it was because of this lense issue, but it makes sense. Everything was so washed out and colourless that I refuse to believe it was a cinematographic choice.

 

This happened to me when I went to see Ininity War the other week. I even remarked to my mate during the film that the contrast was terrible. Obviously a thing then.

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Liked this a lot. Had medium expectations and they were completely smashed.

 

the basic plot arc, characters, casting and acting all landed for me. Thought Alden nailed a perfect non pastichey impression that was utterly believable as the same man but younger and less jaded.

 

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I enjoyed the WW1/2 style trenches bit, the heist, the second heist and most of the beats. 

 

My only criticisms are:

- that there was too much on the nose referencing which made the universe feel too small: every off screen character, planet, system, ship name, cartel, martial art (!), EVERYTHING is from somewhere in the old EU games, comics, mmo, films etc. Oh and btw, the Kessel heist setting up the funding via Enfys Nest of the whole rebel alliance- WHY?? :)

 

- it was just 15+ minutes too long. The space monster bit was also a bit too much like what we’ve seen before and that whole section post Kessel could’ve been way way tighter. I also didn’t need to see the very final game where he wins the Falcon - hecouldve won it 10 years later and it would’ve been fine.

 

I did like some of the other less honking fan servicey bits like “I have a good feeling about this”, Han shooting first, crime syndicate on tattooine without mentioning the Hutts by name and using the smuggling containers under the floor panels etc.

 

Also, although it’s weird to address it in a film so far back in the series, L3-37 ( :-/ ) is right. Droids are all sentient so how come no one ever really

comments on the fact they are 100% slaves?

 

Also, it’s presumably just a coincidence that Leia uses the exact same “I’ve got a thermal detonator line and pose” 20 years later? That was a weird thing to repeat?

 

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The bit that really got me in this, was when the “Han Solo and the Princess theme” from Empire kicked in as the Falcon was pirouetting through space....  

 

after sleeping on it this is deffinately 100 times better and more “Star Wars” than Episodes 7&8. All the talky talk bullshit about trade federations, being a chosen one... all that shit is out the window and it’s about Space Pirates being dodgy fuckers but still doing the right thing and overcoming the odds...

 

regarding the fact people complaining about about the tick list bits..

 

 

 


 

we 100% need to see how Han met chewie, how he got the falcon etc ASAP.

 

han isn’t a complicated character, he’s a loveable rogue who’s a bit dodgy (shoot first) but will do the right thing at the end... there’s not much more to him than that.. half his character is his relationship with Chewie and the Falcon.. without either he’s not Really Han Solo so it makes sense to have them explained in this film.

 
 

 

 

4/5 for me and extremely happy with it!

 

oh and the Imperial March theme playing as actual music in the film was a stroke of genius!

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Just as an aside to the Solo talk, have the story treatments for 7,8 and 9 that Lucas did, ever been released or details about them emerged?

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Going for a second viewing tomorrow, and then hopefully a third before the end of the week. The thing with Star Wars films is that until you've seen them at least half a dozen times, it's impossible to judge them fairly against the originals, simply because the original trilogy has become so much more for most of us over the past 35-40 years than just a bunch of popcorn space action flicks (which, if you look at them objectively, is precisely what they were).

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I'll still watch any of the original trilogy in a heartbeat. A single viewing of VII and VIII was all I needed to know they were ok and utter tripe, respectively. Not sure if I want to see Solo yet, but I'd never have thought there'd be a day when a new Star Wars flick was out and I'd be thinking that.

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Another bit I loved was at the start of the Kessel heist when they bamboozle the Kessel supervisor with talk of trade federations etc. Clearly a nod at the Episode I nonsense.


I'm not complaining about the movie including Chewie, the Falcon and Kessel. It's that there are literally 100+ more references to other things in the EU throughout the film. It's a bit too much and Star Wars has always had a bad habit of trying to tie everything together as if there are only a handful of closely co-located planets and important people in the entire 'Galactic Empire'

 

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Star Wars films are deliberately inaccessible so that only the true fans can appreciate them.

 

everyone is saying this.

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I'm surprised that this movie has been having so much trouble with incorrectly-projected 2D showings, although as noted perhaps it's not sold enough tickets for cinemas to put an effort in. It looked fine at my local independent.

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I’ve definitely had the dim projection thing before, on several occasions, but it was fine in the screening of Solo I watched at Vue.

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Well, this is Star Wars for seven year olds. 

 

Seven year olds, and their awesome uncles, aunts, and mums & dads. ;)  Saw it today with my nephew, and really enjoyed it. A lot of fun, with some great use of the OT's music. Ehrenreich was fine, sure he's no Harrison Ford, but who is? He still did the job admirably. Glover was excellent as Lando, and I had no problems with Emilia Clarke. The droid, L3, was funny, and Harrelson was great.

 

If I had to fault it, too many nods to the other movies, and it was rather predictable. But as a tale of how Han meets Chewie, and the the Falcon, it's great. The film hooked me the moment we saw Chewie for the first time. :)   It's better than Rogue One for me.

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2 minutes ago, FishyFish said:

I’ve definitely had the dim projection thing before, on several occasions, but it was fine in the screening of Solo I watched at Vue.

 

I’ve never encountered an issue at a Vue cinema when watching 2D films either. Maybe they have an actual policy to ensure the right lenses are used. This should be a given.

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4 hours ago, strider said:

what a bizarre statement.

 

Not really. I'm just pointing out that to directly compare a movie I've seen only once (at just after midnight when I was a bit tired and finding it hard to concentrate after having been up since the crack of dawn) with three films that I've seen countless hundreds of times each and have grown up with and loved since I was four years old, doesn't feel like it can be a completely fair comparison because the new one is at an automatic disadvantage in seeming a bit unfamiliar and difficult to take in and assess in its entirety. I've already given my initial reaction to it a few pages back (which was a solid 8/10 but a sense that it was the worst of the four Disney Star Wars films so far), but I'm just curious to find out if my opinion changes in any way after repeated viewings, like it did with the other three Disney films, to varying degrees.

 

:) 

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I absolutely loved this right up until the final act, which was a bit of an anti climax. Really enjoyed the focus on crime syndicates, space gamblers, general scum & villainy. Some nice performances as well, enjoyed Han & Lando as well as Paul Bettany's crime boss. Liked the period aesthetic too. 

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Worth noting that the overly dim image is likely a combination of two issues. Bradford Young’s house style is relatively low contrast and desaturated with soft blacks (think Arrival, which he also shot), which looks amazing in the right circumstances but really needs strong projection to work properly. To exacerbate the issue a lot of chain cinemas under crank their bulbs to make them last longer and save money. 

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I tweeted my local vue and they told me its the way the film was made, it's very dark. I think, bullshit. They left the 3d lenses in, no-one would surely make a film that dark. It was unwatchable. Ruined it for me. 

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