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29 minutes ago, Stigweard said:

Broker in the MCU thread - "Do something different, stop copying the same old formula

 

Broker in the Batman thread - "But not like that, thats awful"

 

I liked the Dark Knight Returns films so *shrug*

 

 

 

DKR is fine, it's definitely better than a lot of Batman comics. But it's a bad example.

 

Someone said Batman shouls be big and muscly, I said that Batman isn't generally big and muscly, so the original elseworlds Batman who was designed to be a departure from the standard interpretation of Batman isn't a great counter example. 

 

Also I would rather Marvel didn't just make basically the same movie over and over again, but that doesn't mean I want garbage Marvel films made by idiots who hate Marvel. If it's the formula forever or someone as stupid as Snyder ruining Marvel, I'd take the formula.

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18 hours ago, Broker said:

 

 

Someone said Batman shouls be big and muscly, I said that Batman isn't generally big and muscly, 

While I didn't specifically say that, he should have muscle. I don't read the comics, but he is definitely portrayed as "larger than average" in the animated batman and justice league cartoons. 

 

Patters doesn't seem like he's got any mass at all. 

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Batman's generally portrayed as being pretty beefy, isn't he? I've just had a flick through the ridiculously huge Grant Morrison Batman anthology, and Batman is similarly ridiculously huge. The same goes for Killing Joke and Long Halloween, he's absolutely jacked in both.

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I generally love Bruce Timm's art, but I was never keen on the way that the Justice League cartoon presented Superman, Batman and Flash as being equally broad-chested!

 

I prefer it when artists make superheroes' builds and physiques loosely equivalent to athletes:

 

Superman/Shazam/Thor - Weight lifters/body builders/wrestlers/heavyweight boxers

Batman/Daredevil/Spider-Man - Gymnasts/swimmers

Flash/Cyclops/Silver Surfer - Runners

 

Batman's strong, but his main physical gimmick is not his strength, but his fighting skill and his agility (swinging across rooftops at night). So IMO he shouldn't look as bulky as Superman - or even as muscular as Captain America.

 

And ideally that should apply to live-action as well as comics, whether that's achieved by the actor bulking up, or through costume design tricks. Ben Affleck had the right build in Daredevil, but in the Batsuit he looked too muscular!

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There is artistic license in comics and cartoons, obviously. But this is a plain jane human, who kicks the shit out of people with one punch, and hangs with Superman and Wonderwoman. Without superpowers, there's no way he can't be pretty much at the top of his physical game. Not Captain America, but supremely fit and strong.

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1 hour ago, JamesC said:

I always think Batman should be portrayed as more muscular than Superman. I mean if Supes can lift a 747 with one hand, what's he using to weightlift with? 

 

This reminds me of the sequence in The Dark Knight Returns where Superman gets caught in a nuclear explosion and he looks skeletal.

 

By the way, Miller may be a right wing-nut, but my God does that sequence contain some of the best Superman writing I've ever seen - just the best writing that manages to convey that there's more depth to him than boy scout and also makes him so alien and strange. Amazing stuff.

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On 07/10/2020 at 10:28, Steve McQueef said:

The story is that he was so jacked, the stunt team were calling him Fatman. 


They had a go at him when he showed up apparently, because he’d bulked up too much - he had to drop 20lb from the frame he showed up with by doing less weights and more running.

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On 14/09/2021 at 11:01, JamesC said:

I always think Batman should be portrayed as more muscular than Superman. I mean if Supes can lift a 747 with one hand, what's he using to weightlift with? 

 

Would also make Clark Kent a bit more plausible if he didn't look like Rainer Wolfcastle in Undercover Nerd.

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