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I use a similar pair to these...

I think I'd rather get ones that I didn't need to reveal my fingers for. It's probably not going to be crazy cold (probably just a bit below zero) but my hands get cold at the best of times...

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Hm. There are some on eBay, but I can't see any real shops that are selling them so I'd be buying blind. They're probably going to get bought though, I can't see much else. Mannfrotto seem to make a very similar pair for a mere £300, which is nice of them. To be fair, they do have a pocket to keep a memory card in, so it's not exactly for nothing.

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Hm. There are some on eBay, but I can't see any real shops that are selling them so I'd be buying blind. They're probably going to get bought though, I can't see much else. Mannfrotto seem to make a very similar pair for a mere £300, which is nice of them. To be fair, they do have a pocket to keep a memory card in, so it's not exactly for nothing.

:lol:

I used Gore Bike Wear gloves which are pretty good, thin and light, and have small rubber grip bits so it's easy to hold the camera. Still found my hands were cold after a while but good overall.

Kinda like these. Although I didn't pay anywhere near that!

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Woo just bought a new lens, the Tamron 17-50 2.8 which seemed to get great reviews and is pretty well priced as well. I went for the model without VR as from what I've read the image is softer on the VR model and on the range of the lens I can't see it being hugely important to have.

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ive just got myself a lovely hand made leather camera strap for my X100, when my half-case comes, expect some top notch camera porn.

What did you go for if you don't mind me asking?

I've been on the hunt for one and settled on Wapiti Straps, it's yet to arrive to see what it's like ~ The stock strap feels like it sits in my armpit.

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Nice, thats what I just got as well! Been really happy with it so far!

I think it was you talking about it that made me go and check it out, so cheers for that. I had a play in Jessops on sat and it seems really nice, ordered it from Wex though as they are cheaper.

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Whatever, definitely read back through the last, 6 pages or so. We've done it a couple of times recently for bodies.

Do you want them to be saleable? That more or less rules out the XZ-1 which would seem to be the most obvious choice so you'll definitely be in M4/3 or NEX territory. The latter is definitely better quality-wise, but for me they were too big for a second camera.

Lens wise, I'm not sure. There are some nice wide-angles but they're expensive, but the mid-zooms are all a bit average - there isn't anything I've been convinced about. Nothing particularly fast. I've very much treated it as prime-only territory.

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I'm not sure what you mean by saleable - I wouldn't be expecting to chop and change if that makes sense ? The XZ-1 looks like a fixed lens camera ? I'd like the flexibility of being able to switch a lens to suit (thinking of low light stuff here - for example gigs/weddings as a guest not a paying tog). I do a lot of paid gig work and for that the 70-200 2.8 is a no brainer. When I'm not an official tog there is no way I can get a normal DSLR in - they never fuss about compacts though.

So I'm looking for a compact DLSR equiv - as small as possible. I did look at Canon's G series but they did nothing for me (for the money) and again they're a bit inflexible. Really interested in 100mm and less equivalent for casual use - from what you've said (and borwsing through here) it doesn't seem like the market is mature yet in terms of stable platforms or decentish glass. Like you say from looking at it the mid-zooms seem to give pretty compact scale performance which is a shame.

I meant the pictures being saleable quality, not the cameras!

The XZ-1 is the best all round lens, by a longshot. It's F1.8-2.5 which is miles ahead of anything M43 can do in that territory. But it's fixed (obviously) and the image quality is below Alamy's standards which is a pretty good measure. Not scientific, but it's enough to cast doubt if you need to be able to sell them. But it's a fantastic walkaround.

I'd tend to say you're going to have problems finding something that does everything you need. But they are very good - I'm very happy with the GF2 as a second camera.

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DB - I think it is worth looking at the GF2 and GX1 plus the Pen I guess. I also had a play with the Sony NEX 5N and 7 yesterday and was impressed with both although the 7 is pretty expensive.

I was playing with the Gx1 and the nex5n yesterday too.

Can't decide which to get so thought I'd get involved and take some test pics and have a good fiddle.

The only real conclusion I drew was that I preferred the feel of the Sony but couldn't get away from the fact it felt more like a gadget than a proper camera.

Will still probably get one though cos it's very nifty.

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Something m43 sounds like the best match for you, with some compromise. Sony NEX gives you better image quality/DOF, but no matter how much they shrink the bodies, the APS-C sensor requires larger lenses than m43; NEX cameras often look to me like an iPod balancing on a bean tin. They also don't have the lens choices at this stage. The only place m43 really falls down is the lack of fast zooms...

Body wise, the Olympus E-PL3/E-P3 or the Panasonic GF2/GX1 are probably your best bet. All jacket-pocketable with a pancake on. Panny GF3 and Oly E-PM1 are pretty much toys, and the ones with the built-in viewfinders (G3/GH-2/OM-D) are much bigger.

Oly's have much better JPG colours, which may be a factor depending on how casual you're planning go here, and Panasonic have much better video. Oly do IBIS, Panny OIS (on longer lenses). You can still use OIS lenses on Olympus bodies - just turn off one of OIS and IBIS. The Olympus kit zoom is better (and smaller) than the current Panasonic, but the Panasonic kit primes are better than the Olympus ones.

Lens wise, the Olympus 9-18mm or the Panasonic 7-14mm are the two wide zoom options. Double the focal length for 35mm equivalent. The Panasonic has better IQ but is pretty big, while the Olympus has good IQ and is incredibly tiny. Plenty of people (Thom Hogan included) think the Olympus is worth the trade off. I have one myself, and love it. If you want to go prime, there's the Olympus 12mm f/2 and the Panasonic 14mm f/2.4. The Olympus is generally thought to be better (and sexy), but larger and more expensive.

For low light, the Panasonic 20mm f/1.7 or the Olympus 45mm f/1.8. Fairly different focal lengths, there, so it depends on what you want to do. I understand the AF in the 20mm is a bit noisy and slower than the 45mm, but both are tack sharp. If you're really rich, the Panasonic Leica 25mm f/1.4 is supposed to be lovely (but large).

Options are kind of non-existent for the 24-104 f/4 equivalent. Panasonic apparently have a 12-35mm f/2.8 on the way, but it's not here yet, and it may be Power Zoom only (which I personally dislike). No-one's cracked making a compact, fast zoom for m43 yet; with Tokina and Tamron joining the consortium the other week, there's a bit more hope. I wish there was an m43 equivalent of the XZ-1's lovely, lovely lens.

This is all opinions, so apologies if I sound like a pseudo-authority. I currently have an Olympus E-P3 and an Olympus XZ-1; I'm not an Olympus fanboy, I just bought the XZ-1, then the VF-2 EVF, then fancied something between it and my D40 in size and flexibility. The E-P3 let me use my existing EVF, and I'd grown to like the Olympus colours and customisability. The fact that Panasonic + Sony both apply a vast New Zealand Gouge also helped me decide. Very happy with it, so far.

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Tiny 300mm 6.3 mirror lens announced by Tokina for micro four thirds. I take it that this particular design of lenses has fallen out of favour, partly because they are frustrating to work with due to their strange rendering of background blur. Shake would obviously be an issue (given that it is equivalent to 600mm full frame view), given how light such a setup might be, and on panasonic bodies there will be no IS. As long as it is cheap and sharp (though f/6.3 is probably entering into diffraction territory), it'll be worth a punt though.
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